Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:50:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:50:10 -0400 Received: from krusty.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE ([129.217.163.1]:16135 "EHLO mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:50:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:53:01 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: Stelian Pop , Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Message-ID: <20020716125301.GI4576@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Stelian Pop , Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com References: <1026490866.5316.41.camel@thud> <1026679245.15054.9.camel@thud> <1026736251.13885.108.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20020715160357.GD442@clusterfs.com> <20020716081531.GD7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> <20020716122756.GD4576@merlin.emma.line.org> <20020716124331.GJ7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020716124331.GJ7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1078 Lines: 25 On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Stelian Pop wrote: > > Low-level snapshots don't do any good, they just freeze the "halfway > > there" on-disk structure. > > But [s|g]tar, cpio, afio (don't know about dsmc) also freeze the > "halfway there" data, but at the file level instead (application > instead of filesystem)... Not if some day somebody implements file system level snapshots for Linux. Until then, better have garbled file contents constrained to a file than random data as on-disk layout changes with hefty directory updates. dsmc fstat()s the file it is currently reading regularly and retries the dump as the changes, and gives up if it is updated too often. Not sure about the server side, and certainly not a useful option for sequential devices that you directly write on. Looks like a cache for the biggest file is necessary. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/