Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:35:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:35:44 -0400 Received: from krusty.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE ([129.217.163.1]:17414 "EHLO mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:35:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:38:36 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Stelian Pop , Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Message-ID: <20020716193831.GC22053@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Stelian Pop , Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com References: <1026736251.13885.108.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20020715160357.GD442@clusterfs.com> <20020716081531.GD7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> <20020716122756.GD4576@merlin.emma.line.org> <20020716124331.GJ7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> <20020716125301.GI4576@merlin.emma.line.org> <20020716140549.A11780@infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020716140549.A11780@infradead.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 999 Lines: 27 On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 02:53:01PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > Not if some day somebody implements file system level snapshots for > > Linux. Until then, better have garbled file contents constrained to a > > file than random data as on-disk layout changes with hefty directory > > updates. > > or the blockdevice-level snapshots already implemented in Linux.. That would require three atomic steps: 1. mount read-only, flushing all pending updates 2. take snapshot 3. mount read-write and then backup the snapshot. A snapshots of a live file system won't do, it can be as inconsistent as it desires -- if your corrupt target is moving or not, dumping it is not of much use. -- Matthias Andree - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/