Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:49:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:49:28 -0400 Received: from h24-67-14-151.cg.shawcable.net ([24.67.14.151]:52464 "EHLO webber.adilger.int") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:49:27 -0400 From: Andreas Dilger Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:49:29 -0600 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Stelian Pop , Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Message-ID: <20020716194929.GS442@clusterfs.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Stelian Pop , Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com References: <1026736251.13885.108.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20020715160357.GD442@clusterfs.com> <20020716081531.GD7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> <20020716122756.GD4576@merlin.emma.line.org> <20020716124331.GJ7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> <20020716125301.GI4576@merlin.emma.line.org> <20020716140549.A11780@infradead.org> <20020716193831.GC22053@merlin.emma.line.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020716193831.GC22053@merlin.emma.line.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-GPG-Key: 1024D/0D35BED6 X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7A37 5D79 BF1B CECA D44F 8A29 A488 39F5 0D35 BED6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1325 Lines: 34 On Jul 16, 2002 21:38 +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 02:53:01PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > > Not if some day somebody implements file system level snapshots for > > > Linux. Until then, better have garbled file contents constrained to a > > > file than random data as on-disk layout changes with hefty directory > > > updates. > > > > or the blockdevice-level snapshots already implemented in Linux.. > > That would require three atomic steps: > > 1. mount read-only, flushing all pending updates > 2. take snapshot > 3. mount read-write > > and then backup the snapshot. A snapshots of a live file system won't > do, it can be as inconsistent as it desires -- if your corrupt target is > moving or not, dumping it is not of much use. Luckily, there is already an interface which does this - sync_supers_lockfs(), which the LVM code will use if it is patched in. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/