Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:53:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:53:47 -0400 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:62471 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:53:47 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: gatekeeper.tmr.com!davidsen From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) Newsgroups: mail.linux-kernel Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Date: 17 Jul 2002 18:51:25 GMT Organization: TMR Associates, Schenectady NY Message-ID: References: <1026490866.5316.41.camel@thud> <20020716122756.GD4576@merlin.emma.line.org> <20020716124331.GJ7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> <20020716125301.GI4576@merlin.emma.line.org> X-Trace: gatekeeper.tmr.com 1026931885 3052 192.168.12.62 (17 Jul 2002 18:51:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tmr.com Originator: davidsen@gatekeeper.tmr.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1489 Lines: 26 In article <20020716125301.GI4576@merlin.emma.line.org>, Matthias Andree wrote: | dsmc fstat()s the file it is currently reading regularly and retries the | dump as the changes, and gives up if it is updated too often. Not sure | about the server side, and certainly not a useful option for sequential | devices that you directly write on. Looks like a cache for the biggest | file is necessary. Which doesn't address the issue of data in files A, B and C, with indices in X and Y. This only works if you flush and freeze all the files at one time, making a perfect backup of one at a time results in corruption if the database is busy. My favorite example is usenet news on INN, a bunch of circular spools, a linear history with two index files, 30-40k overview files, and all of it changing with perhaps 3.5MB/sec data and 20-50/sec index writes. Far better done with an application backup! The point is, backups are hard, for many systems dump is optimal because it's fast. After that I like cpio (-Hcrc) but that's personal preference. All have fail cases on volatile data. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/