Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756777Ab1CaCdV (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:33:21 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:49958 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756729Ab1CaCdU (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:33:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:34:04 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Shaohua Li Cc: linux-mm , lkml , Andi Kleen , Rik van Riel , Hugh Dickins Subject: Re: [PATCH]mmap: improve scalability for updating vm_committed_as Message-Id: <20110330193404.9525b4e9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <1301533003.3981.75.camel@sli10-conroe> References: <1301447847.3981.49.camel@sli10-conroe> <20110330155114.fa47dd9d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <1301533003.3981.75.camel@sli10-conroe> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1355 Lines: 27 On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:56:43 +0800 Shaohua Li wrote: > > This is a big change, and it wasn't even changelogged. It's > > potentially a tremendous increase in the expense of a read from > > /proc/meminfo, which is a file that lots of tools will be polling. > > Many of those tools we don't even know about or have access to. > Assume we don't read /proc/meminfo too often. That's a poor assumption. top(1) and vmstat(8) read it, for a start. There will be zillions of locally-developed monitoring tools which read meminfo. Now, it could be that something under meminfo reads _already_ does a massive walk across all CPUs. If so then we'll have already trained people to avoid reading /proc/meminfo and this change might be acceptable. But if this isn't the case then it's quite likely that this change will hurt some people quite a lot. And, unfortunately, the sort of people who we will hurt tend to be people who don't run our stuff until a long time (years) after we wrote it. By which time it's going to be quite expensive to get a fix down the chain and into their hands. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/