Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757802Ab1CaNyx (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:54:53 -0400 Received: from www.linutronix.de ([62.245.132.108]:50497 "EHLO linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757776Ab1CaNyv (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:54:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:54:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Russell King - ARM Linux cc: Alan Cox , Nicolas Pitre , Dave Airlie , david@lang.hm, Linus Torvalds , Arnd Bergmann , Tony Lindgren , David Brown , lkml , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Catalin Marinas Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] omap changes for v2.6.39 merge window In-Reply-To: <20110331105000.GC14323@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <201103301906.42429.arnd@arndb.de> <20110331105440.42692165@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20110331105000.GC14323@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2057 Lines: 42 On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > And I'm not going to be merging anything into my tree for the time being. > I know there's no way for me to continue without being moaned at by someone. > So I'm just going to take the easy option at the moment and do precisely > nothing in terms of queueing patches until something gets resolved one way > or the other. I'm not even going to review any patches because I currently > see it as a total waste of time - I've no idea whether they'll stand any > chance what so ever of making it into mainline. > > What's the way out of this? I've no idea. Can ARM continue being part > of the mainline kernel? I've no idea. Will we be ripping out all the > ARM platform code from the mainline kernel? I've no idea. Moving arm out of mainline would be a complete disaster. > I am now completely demotivated. I can understand that, but I have to say again, that you do a pretty damned good job on keeping the ARM core code clean and I always enjoy working with you when infrastructure I'm working on needs to deal with ARM requirements. We disagree from time to time, but I don't remember a single incident where we could not resolve that on a technical base. It's not your fault, that you can't clone yourself 10 times to deal with the subarch flood. It's also not your fault that the subarch maintainers tend not to look over the brim of their SoC sandbox and figure out how to solve the big picture. So no, ARM needs to stay and the ARM crowd needs to find competent people who babysit the SoC crowd and work with you to get the big picture straight. Something like this should have been done _before_ the wave of ARM spilling out of every other silicon shop became tsunami sized. But not doing it at all will not solve anything. Thanks, tglx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/