Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755494Ab1DFJtn (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Apr 2011 05:49:43 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:48328 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755263Ab1DFJtm (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Apr 2011 05:49:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4D9C3719.1040502@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:49:13 +0300 From: Avi Kivity User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Fedora/3.1.9-0.39.b3pre.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ingo Molnar CC: Gleb Natapov , Anthony Liguori , Pekka Enberg , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, asias.hejun@gmail.com, gorcunov@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Native Linux KVM tool References: <1301592656.586.15.camel@jaguar> <4D982E89.8070502@redhat.com> <4D9847BC.9060906@redhat.com> <4D98716D.9040307@codemonkey.ws> <4D9873CD.3080207@redhat.com> <20110406093333.GB6465@elte.hu> <20110406093635.GE25626@redhat.com> <20110406094612.GA19943@elte.hu> In-Reply-To: <20110406094612.GA19943@elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 33 On 04/06/2011 12:46 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Gleb Natapov wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:33:33AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > So no, your kind of cynical, defeatist sentiment about code quality is by > > > no means true in my experience. Projects become ugly gooballs once > > > maintainers stop caring enough. > > > > In case of Qemu it was other way around. Maintainers started caring too late. > > Nah, i do not think it's ever too late to care. > > Example: arch/i386 - arch/x86_64/ was very messy for many, many years and we > turned it around and can be proud of arch/x86/ today - but i guess i'm somewhat > biased there ;-) > > In my experience it's entirely possible to turn a messy gooball into something > you can be proud of - it's all reversible. Start small, with the core bits you > care about most - then extend those concepts to other areas of the code base, > gradually. There might be subsystems that will never turn around before > becoming obsolete - that's not a big problem. That is what we're trying to do with qemu. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/