Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752599Ab1DLEwB (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:52:01 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:17284 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750783Ab1DLEwA (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:52:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:21:46 +0530 From: Amit Shah To: Tejun Heo Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe , "James E.J. Bottomley" , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Markus Armbruster Subject: Re: [PATCH] sr: Ensure disk is revalidated when media changes Message-ID: <20110412045146.GE26678@amit-x200.redhat.com> References: <8d830b21c0b944d26f29dc1e0c42c0bef8d448c2.1301595169.git.amit.shah@redhat.com> <20110401154327.GA6593@mtj.dyndns.org> <20110405065129.GC2872@amit-x200.redhat.com> <20110406100620.GA4142@mtj.dyndns.org> <20110408162041.GB3871@mtj.dyndns.org> <20110408165207.GD3871@mtj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20110408165207.GD3871@mtj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2363 Lines: 49 On (Fri) 08 Apr 2011 [09:52:07], Tejun Heo wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 05:43:16PM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > >> I think it would make sense to refresh the inode size on media change > > >> so that even open file descriptors see the new size and a single > > >> process cannot force a stale value for all other userspace processes > > >> on the system. > > > > > > Hmmm... I don't know. ?Maybe we can but I'm not sure whether there's a > > > good reason for it. ?cdrom is locked while opened after all. ?Are > > > there actual problems? > > > > Yeah, sorry I didn't explain what the use case was. With QEMU you can > > pass through the physical CD-ROM into the virtual machine. > > > > QEMU opens /dev/cdrom with O_NONBLOCK | O_RDONLY. The guest can test > > if the medium is present and QEMU will do ioctl(fd, > > CDROM_DRIVE_STATUS, CDSL_CURRENT). The guest can also lock the tray > > and eject, again using the respective ioctls. Read operations are > > serviced by performing a read on the file descriptor in QEMU. And > > finally the medium size is queried by QEMU using lseek(fd, 0, > > SEEK_END). > > > > Today QEMU cannot keep /dev/cdrom open across media change because it > > will have an outdated inode size returned from lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_END). > > But if the cdrom driver (or sr) refresh the inode size on media > > change then there is no need to work around this from userspace. > > Hmmm... ISTR there was some discussion about changing inode size on > the fly quite a while ago. I didn't follow the discussion but it > seemed to have rather nasty/delicate implications. I don't necessarily agree with having to modify inode sizes on the fly, but the main bug here is that the inode doesn't get invalidated if a CDROM is ejected while a process has an fd to the CDROM device opened. So as in the original case, if a CD is swapped with one having more data, lseek continues to report the original media's size in the process that keeps the fd open across eject/insert. I haven't tried this on physical systems, so can't count out it being a qemu bug as well. Amit -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/