Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752338Ab1DSN6u (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:58:50 -0400 Received: from mms3.broadcom.com ([216.31.210.19]:4111 "EHLO MMS3.broadcom.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751869Ab1DSN6s convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:58:48 -0400 X-Server-Uuid: B55A25B1-5D7D-41F8-BC53-C57E7AD3C201 To: =?utf-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?= , "Arnd Bergmann" cc: "George Kashperko" , "Hauke Mehrtens" , "Russell King" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , "Jonas Gorski" , "b43-dev@lists.infradead.org" , "Greg KH" , "Andy Botting" , "Larry Finger" Subject: Re: Could I (ab)use bus (struct bus_type) for virtual Broadcom bus? References: <1302892585.30441.12.camel@dev.znau.edu.ua> <201104171938.12834.arnd@arndb.de> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:58:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Arend van Spriel" Organization: Broadcom Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201104171938.12834.arnd@arndb.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.10 (Linux) X-WSS-ID: 61B34A4E3I813626422-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2412 Lines: 49 On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:38:12 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: Hi Rafał, As you probably expected I tried to integrate and use your bcmai/bcmaxi/? driver with our brcm80211 driver (making progress). In the mean time I tried to follow the discussions going on, but I am still catching up. > Compare this to the PCI bus type, which essentially deals with devices > that have a PCI configuration space that contains generic (irq, memory, > vendor/device ID, ...) registers along with device specific registers. How much alike is the (BCM)AXI bus type? My assumption was that each registered PCI device is handled by a single driver module. In the current(?) bcmai implementation each device driver is called with the appropriate device structure reference, but it will also have the bus structure reference and through that can also access other cores on the (bcm)axi bus. This seems to me a potential issue when there are no synchronization mechanisms in place (whether in a SoC configuration or PCI-hosted). Does the PCI bus type allow driver for device A access device B? > A new bus_type really only makes sense if you expect a lot of devices > to use this and you want to have the probing in the bus. If you only > want to have a way to enumerate devices that get created by the > parent driver, you can also use platform devices. The main assumption of the (bcm)axi driver seems to be that each core can be considered as a device. Correct me if I am wrong, but I consider a device to be an entity providing a particular system function. So an ethernet device provides ethernet connectivity function, a mixer device provides sound mixing function, and so on. The cores within a chip are not always self-contained like this. To clarify let's say a system function is realized by programming core A, core B, and finally trigger core A to set the function in motion. This implies the need of coordination between the programming steps on those cores. Is my view on what is a device wrong? Does a platform device differ in this respect from a regular device? Gr. AvS -- "The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." — H.P. Lovecraft -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/