Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:01:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:01:17 -0500 Received: from host156.207-175-42.redhat.com ([207.175.42.156]:7945 "EHLO devserv.devel.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:01:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:30:42 -0500 (EST) From: Elliot Lee To: cc: , Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 14 Dec 2000, Michael Livshin wrote: > this might be because the Bell Labs folks don't like RPC in general > when network latencies become involved? I'm guessing. > > 'cause CORBA is still pretty much objectified RPC, as far as I know. > I don't think you want to abstract the network out just like that when > dealing with kernels. OK, since everyone seems to want to argue about this on orbit-list for some reason, my $0.02: CORBA/IIOP is saner than SunRPC in a lot of ways, and it's not too horribly more complicated to implement a barebones ORB than a barebones SunRPC impl. Comments about CORBA being too slow are nonsense - it's just that a few crackheads have tried to stick ORBit in the kernel as a global IPC mechanism, which it really is not suitable for. CORBA has its place, and a GIOP mapping to a kernel-friendly IPC mechanism (instead of TCP/IP) would certainly make it more useful in the kernel, but generic mechanisms such as CORBA cannot by definition be as fast as IPC mechanisms optimized for a specific task. People like Al Viro, who haven't written GNOME programs of any size and certainly don't have mounds of in-depth knowledge of it, should probably shut up about about its API & design. :) TTFN, -- Elliot No new ideas for my .sig, and Alan told me my old one was an urban myth, so just ignore this. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/