Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753845Ab1DUUJj (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:09:39 -0400 Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com ([69.89.21.8]:55084 "HELO oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1753412Ab1DUUJi (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:09:38 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=virtuousgeek.org; h=Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=plcR0JXFzyXP5BRnHnzFzqIVBfnpHcl6kgoyAiQJXm2to5orV6R38NBuOoPWNhNmVY/eD42j2uDKFFgE0Da7GcQyGQibwUfR4XIrDCtvHi2LXakHF4vqjk/rQG2kxUlh; Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:09:30 -0700 From: Jesse Barnes To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1 Message-ID: <20110421130930.4be9e9e1@jbarnes-desktop> In-Reply-To: <201104212129.17013.arnd@arndb.de> References: <201104212129.17013.arnd@arndb.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.0; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {10642:box514.bluehost.com:virtuous:virtuousgeek.org} {sentby:smtp auth 67.161.37.189 authed with jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org} Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2215 Lines: 45 On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:29:16 +0200 Arnd Bergmann wrote: > I think the recent discussions on linaro-mm-sig and the BoF last week > at ELC have been quite productive, and at least my understanding > of the missing pieces has improved quite a bit. This is a list of > things that I think need to be done in the kernel. Please complain > if any of these still seem controversial: > > 1. Fix the arm version of dma_alloc_coherent. It's in use today and > is broken on modern CPUs because it results in both cached and > uncached mappings. Rebecca suggested different approaches how to > get there. > > 2. Implement dma_alloc_noncoherent on ARM. Marek pointed out > that this is needed, and it currently is not implemented, with > an outdated comment explaining why it used to not be possible > to do it. > > 3. Convert ARM to use asm-generic/dma-mapping-common.h. We need > both IOMMU and direct mapped DMA on some machines. I don't think the DMA mapping and allocation APIs are sufficient for high performance graphics at least. It's fairly common to allocate a bunch of buffers necessary to render a scene, build up a command buffer that references them, then hand the whole thing off to the kernel to execute at once on the GPU. That allows for a lot of extra efficiency, since it allows you to batch the MMU binding until execution occurs (or even put it off entirely until the page is referenced by the GPU in the case of faulting support). It's also necessary to avoid livelocks between two clients trying to render; if mapping is incremental on both sides, it's possible that neither will be able to make forward progress due to IOMMU space exhaustion. So that argues for separating allocation from mapping both on the user side (which I think everyone agrees on) as well as on the kernel side, both for CPU access (which some drivers won't need) and for GPU access. -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/