Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:50:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:50:04 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20]:10709 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:50:03 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020722063834.00b7fed0@pop.gmx.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 06:49:23 +0200 To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz From: Mike Galbraith Subject: Re: Give Bartlomiej a break! (Re: Impressions of IDE 98?) Cc: Tomas Szepe , Thunder from the hill , Andre Hedrick , In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1876 Lines: 44 At 01:04 AM 7/22/2002 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: >On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > >> Well you don't necessarily have to be an IDE guru to realize something's > >> wrong when you see a bloke constantly breaking the subsystem, practically > >> never fixing it up himself, disappearing for a month w/o saying a word > >> after having fried 2.5.25 completely and not really caring about what > >> others have to say about the code. > > > No, you don't have to be a guru to notice that the rewrite is proving > > difficult. > >You also don't have to be a guru to notice that recently most of the >content of the rewrite is moving code here and there, unfolding functions, >renaming them and changing intendation. Check yourself. >Also imagine how hard is now to track changes from 2.4 to 2.5 >now and fix bugs. > >Yup, please give me a break from having to track this changes. :-) > >If you go through all the ide-clean patches you will see that much >of the cruft has been removed, some things fixed but there is still >plenty of work to do. > >Next problem is that Martin seems to not care that his style of >development (pushing stuff immediately to Linus instead of lkml -> some >reasonable delay -> Linus) _constantly_ interferes other people doing >kernel hacking. > >I don't want next flamewar or personal bashing here, >please only _think_ for a while about issues raised. Oh, I have thought about it. I'm in no way defending Martin (he's a big boy, can do that by himself) or saying everything's fine. I merely objected to the content and presentation of the posts I replied to. -Mike - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/