Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933425Ab1D1TVK (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:21:10 -0400 Received: from cantor.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:39456 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932780Ab1D1TVI (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:21:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:21:04 +0100 From: Mel Gorman To: James Bottomley Cc: Jan Kara , colin.king@canonical.com, Chris Mason , linux-fsdevel , linux-mm , linux-kernel , linux-ext4 , mgorman@novell.com Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related. Message-ID: <20110428192104.GA4658@suse.de> References: <1303990590.2081.9.camel@lenovo> <20110428135228.GC1696@quack.suse.cz> <20110428140725.GX4658@suse.de> <1304000714.2598.0.camel@mulgrave.site> <20110428150827.GY4658@suse.de> <1304006499.2598.5.camel@mulgrave.site> <1304009438.2598.9.camel@mulgrave.site> <1304009778.2598.10.camel@mulgrave.site> <20110428171826.GZ4658@suse.de> <1304015436.2598.19.camel@mulgrave.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1304015436.2598.19.camel@mulgrave.site> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4122 Lines: 104 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 01:30:36PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 18:18 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:56:17AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > > > # Events: 6K cycles > > > # > > > # Overhead Command Shared Object Symbol > > > # ........ ........... ................... ....................................... > > > # > > > 20.41% kswapd0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] shrink_slab > > > | > > > --- shrink_slab > > > | > > > |--99.91%-- kswapd > > > | kthread > > > | kernel_thread_helper > > > --0.09%-- [...] > > > > > > > Ok. I can't see how the patch "mm: vmscan: reclaim order-0 and use > > compaction instead of lumpy reclaim" is related unless we are seeing > > two problems that happen to manifest in a similar manner. > > > > However, there were a number of changes made to dcache in particular > > for 2.6.38. Specifically thinks like dentry_kill use trylock and is > > happy to loop around if it fails to acquire anything. See things like > > this for example; > > OK, so for this, I tried a 2.6.37 kernel. It doesn't work very well, > networking is hosed for no reason I can see (probably systemd / cgroups > problems). > > However, it runs enough for me to say that the tar proceeds to > completion in a non-PREEMPT kernel. (I tried several times for good > measure). That makes this definitely a regression of some sort, but it > doesn't definitively identify the dcache code ... it could be an ext4 > bug that got introduced in 2.6.38 either. > True, it could be any shrinker and dcache is just a guess. > > > > > > Way hey, cgroups are also in the mix. How jolly. > > > > Is systemd a common element of the machines hitting this bug by any > > chance? > > Well, yes, the bug report is against FC15, which needs cgroups for > systemd. > Ok although we do not have direct evidence that it's the problem yet. A broken shrinker could just mean we are also trying to aggressively reclaim in cgroups. > > The remaining traces seem to be follow-on damage related to the three > > issues of "shrinkers are bust in some manner" causing "we are not > > getting over the min watermark" and as a side-show "we are spending lots > > of time doing something unspecified but unhelpful in cgroups". > > Heh, well find a way for me to verify this: I can't turn off cgroups > because systemd then won't work and the machine won't boot ... > Same testcase, same kernel but a distro that is not using systemd to verify if cgroups are the problem. Not ideal I know. When I'm back online Tuesday, I'll try reproducing this on a !Fedora distribution. In the meantime, the following untested hatchet job might spit out which shrinker we are getting stuck in. It is also breaking out of the shrink_slab loop so it'd even be interesting to see if the bug is mitigated in any way. diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c index c74a501..ed99104 100644 --- a/mm/vmscan.c +++ b/mm/vmscan.c @@ -225,6 +225,7 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(unsigned long scanned, gfp_t gfp_mask, { struct shrinker *shrinker; unsigned long ret = 0; + unsigned long shrink_expired = jiffies + HZ; if (scanned == 0) scanned = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX; @@ -270,6 +271,14 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(unsigned long scanned, gfp_t gfp_mask, gfp_mask); if (shrink_ret == -1) break; + if (time_after(jiffies, shrink_expired)) { + printk(KERN_WARNING "Slab shrinker %p gone mental" + " comm=%s nr=%ld\n", + shrinker->shrink, + current->comm, + shrinker->nr); + break; + } if (shrink_ret < nr_before) ret += nr_before - shrink_ret; count_vm_events(SLABS_SCANNED, this_scan); -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/