Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752447Ab1D3HOe (ORCPT ); Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:14:34 -0400 Received: from mail-vx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]:58891 "EHLO mail-vx0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750794Ab1D3HOd convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:14:33 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Nufe+zdmHIA8ILLPUJ5Y5Rh0YOfcRsKJ93DpjxxOb1BB6aQnSfevGPGJ/v4nsPULLi iapJQbFSpKYUT7qVwHDH3dFAvxxAXfh6/89MTbu4RU2lI/8OWwLD14Bc5Ow9XVVixcIF 0mzoaqTfmrnsKOCWdevFN8Fdnsh9L9DQEbP2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110429164227.GA25491@elte.hu> <20110429185741.GB10217@elte.hu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:14:32 +0300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Zl4hPNPmYbaL5-FMf8cKLnrnpIY Message-ID: Subject: Re: re-enable Nehalem raw Offcore-Events support From: Pekka Enberg To: Vince Weaver Cc: Ingo Molnar , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra , Stephane Eranian , Andi Kleen , Thomas Gleixner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1606 Lines: 33 Hi Vince, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Vince Weaver wrote: > But your argument isn't that. ?Your argument is that you're blocking raw > event access as some sort of punishment because us HPC people aren't > providing patches for "generalized" events that we never plan to use. > That's not a technical argument, that's some sort of weird power play. That's not his argument at all and if you fail to see that you really have no idea what the concept "working with the maintainer" means. Yes, raw event access was reverted from 2.6.39 but that doesn't mean it's blocked forever. If you want to keep pushing your feature, please tone down your crazy-talk and start acting like a developer who's genuinely interested in Linux, not on your own narrow, selfish goals. I mean really, I haven't even had the pleasure of interracting a lot with you and while I personally don't see the problem with raw event access (if done in a well-thought out manner from ABI pov), you've already managed to convince me that applying _any_ patch from you is a bad idea because the baggage that comes with it is simply not worth it. If you want to alienate other developers, keep doing what you're doing - otherwise consider changing your tactics. It's boring to watch you repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Pekka -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/