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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Vince Weaver <vweaver1@eecs.utk.edu>
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Subject: Re: re-enable Nehalem raw Offcore-Events support
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* Vince Weaver <vweaver1@eecs.utk.edu> wrote:

> I spend a lot of time dealing with developers who use perf-counter related 
> interfaces all the time.  They complain to me *constantly* about the 
> drawbacks of perf_events, because PAPI is one step up from the kernel.
> 
> I try to get them to interact with the kernel people, but they won't.  Do you 
> know why?  Because they feel like the perf_events developers are rude at 
> best, unhelpful in general, and actively anti-anyone-not-using-perf.

Arnaldo, the maintainer of perf tooling (and with whom most users complaining 
about perf would be interacting) is one of the most responsive maintainers and 
developers i've ever seen. I have not seen him brush off a single user 
bugreport or complaint, ever - let alone be 'unhelpful' or be anti-anyone. 
Ditto for Peter.

They didnt even brush *you* off, ever.

Let me guess, you just made that argument up, right?

	Ingo
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