Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:27:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:27:54 -0400 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:53258 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:27:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:25:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Davidsen To: "Richard B. Johnson" cc: venom@sns.it, Robert Sinko , "'Hubbard, Dwight'" , Matt_Domsch@Dell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: Wrong CPU count In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1616 Lines: 41 On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 venom@sns.it wrote: > > > > > yes, as bios option. > > > > On my point of view it would be interesting to verify is hyperthreading is > > really usefull or not. > > > > It would be interesting to determine if "hyperthreading" in the CPU > actually exists. It may just be an artifact of dual instruction units, > actually a defect (perhaps harmless), that is hyped as a feature. Clearly not, it requires another set of registers including instruction counter. > For instance, it has long been known that if a CPU were to have as > many instruction units as possible instruction branches, program > jumps upon logical conditions would not slow the machine down. The > hardware just continues using the instruction unit that contains the > correct program-flow while the others are re-loaded. That is not correct, it certainly can slow the machine down. Speculative execution is used, but it's not free, since it requires fetching instructions not used through a limited bandwidth to memory. Much on this in comp.arch, there is a tradeoff between avoiding stalls and causing them, separate branch target cache, etc. Details probably a lot better to be discussed there. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/