Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 18:22:37 +0200
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
        Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
        "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org,
        Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
        linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
        linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Mingming Cao <mcao@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v3.1 0/7] data integrity: Stabilize pages during
 writeback for various fses
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On Wed 11-05-11 01:12:13, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:
> 
> >> Did you already consider, to copy only if page was writeback (like
> >> copy-on-write)? I.e. if page is on I/O, copy, then switch the page for
> >> writing new data.
> >   Yes, that was considered as well. We'd have to essentially migrate the
> > page that is under writeback and should be written to. You are going to pay
> > the cost of page allocation, copy, increased memory & cache pressure.
> > Depending on your backing storage and workload this may or may not be better
> > than waiting for IO...
> 
> Maybe possible, but you really think on usual case just blocking is
> better?
  Define usual case... As Christoph noted, we don't currently have a real
practical case where blocking would matter (since frequent rewrites are
rather rare). So defining what is usual when we don't have a single real
case is kind of tough ;)

								Honza
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Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
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