Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753201Ab1ERUUb (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 May 2011 16:20:31 -0400 Received: from alternativer.internetendpunkt.de ([88.198.24.89]:58140 "EHLO geheimer.internetendpunkt.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752316Ab1ERUU2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 May 2011 16:20:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:20:25 +0200 From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer To: David Miller Cc: tsunanet@gmail.com, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, pekkas@netcore.fi, jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl. Message-ID: <20110518202025.GC4175@nuttenaction> References: <1305715384-81716-1-git-send-email-tsunanet@gmail.com> <20110518.152653.1486764697527722925.davem@davemloft.net> <20110518.155200.801089483916944725.davem@davemloft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110518.155200.801089483916944725.davem@davemloft.net> X-Key-Id: 98350C22 X-Key-Fingerprint: 490F 557B 6C48 6D7E 5706 2EA2 4A22 8D45 9835 0C22 X-GPG-Key: gpg --recv-keys --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net 98350C22 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1253 Lines: 26 * David Miller | 2011-05-18 15:52:00 [-0400]: >I've already changed the initial TCP congestion window in Linux to 10 >without some stupid draft being fully accepted. > >I'll just as easily accept right now a patch right now which lowers >the initial RTO to 1 second and adds the 3 second RTO fallback. I like the idea to make the initial RTO a knob because we in a isolated MANET environment have a RTT larger then 1 second. Especially the link layer setup procedure over several hops demand some time-costly setup time. After that the RTT is <1 second. The current algorithm works great for us. So this RTO change will be counterproductive: it will always trigger a needless timeout. The main problem for us is that Google at all pushing their view of Internet with a lot of pressure. The same is true for the IETF IW adjustments, which is unsuitable for networks which operates at a bandwidth characteristic some years ago. The _former_ conservative principle "TCP over everything" is forgotten. Hagen -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/