Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933605Ab1ESQkd (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 May 2011 12:40:33 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.161.174]:41163 "EHLO mail-gx0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933494Ab1ESQka convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 May 2011 12:40:30 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L/Tazm/C7GnytJ1fs56vSzAv2dVePrXR7Ohb9RCRhD4yVqVpaMf1fk9M8qoNuN88my xP1NewKithUL6wV90KMtKwninN+PF119DsnfbtzYsA9mBkyFbKvP1wvlXqCz+mwVo6VZ 3/bVWoOoapQdG0/qia55Ao9N4r4pVeVP+0iAs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1305771744-83951-1-git-send-email-tsunanet@gmail.com> <20110518.223622.1525088601595365235.davem@davemloft.net> <20110519.001426.2119532755281545481.davem@davemloft.net> <9DC9A4D5-8E16-4361-B323-C92D563171A1@comsys.rwth-aachen.de> <8C5DF277-320D-4DEB-A133-EEC301DE58DC@comsys.rwth-aachen.de> From: tsuna Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:40:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO as per draft RFC 2988bis-02. To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer Cc: Alexander Zimmermann , David Miller , kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, pekkas@netcore.fi, jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1234 Lines: 24 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote: > So yes, it CAN be wise to choose other lower/upper bounds. But keep in > mind that we should NOT artificial limit ourself. I can image data center > scenarios where a initial RTO of <1 match perfectly. Yes that's exactly the point I was trying to make when talking to Alexander offline. On today's Internet, RTTs are easily in the hundreds of ms, and initRTO is 3s, so there's 2 orders of magnitude of difference. In my environment, if my RTT is ~2?s, an initRTO of 200ms means that there's a gap of 6 orders of magnitude (!). And yes, although I don't work for High Frequency Trading companies in Wall Street, I'm already buying switches full of line-rate 10Gb ports with a port-to-port latency of 500ns for L2/L3 forwarding/switching. I expect this kind of network gear will quickly become prevalent in datacenter/backend environments. -- Benoit "tsuna" Sigoure Software Engineer @ www.StumbleUpon.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/