Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756351Ab1EXNSn (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 May 2011 09:18:43 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f46.google.com ([209.85.210.46]:60643 "EHLO mail-pz0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756109Ab1EXNSk (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 May 2011 09:18:40 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=f6Gy7JtZxAwcnmGL/GT4KkkWmym8dTW2SjB8d7+ZWpqV30qPUpV3rTfk4S3oWDs+Tz DCObiv4gu7V/gcPnAVzOYTEqbXTj5HWnp08eM2MAcTY2aUOEY5OhUyHYhKlwJ0J0P4lV NfwYHiDeVpjImn+7cozO5B51wNhu/3oTxnGmc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110523192056.GC23629@elte.hu> <20110523231721.GM10009@thunk.org> <4DDAEC68.30803@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:18:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (Short?) merge window reminder From: Jacek Luczak To: Jan Engelhardt Cc: Linus Torvalds , "H. Peter Anvin" , "Ted Ts'o" , Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, DRI , linux-fsdevel , "linux-mm X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2497 Lines: 57 2011/5/24 Jan Engelhardt : > On Tuesday 2011-05-24 14:30, Jacek Luczak wrote: > >>2011/5/24 Jan Engelhardt : >>> On Tuesday 2011-05-24 01:33, Linus Torvalds wrote: >>> >>>>Another advantage of switching numbering models (ie 3.0 instead of >>>>2.8.x) would be that it would also make the "odd numbers are also >>>>numbers" transition much more natural. >>>> >>>>Because of our historical even/odd model, I wouldn't do a 2.7.x - >>>>there's just too much history of 2.1, 2.3, 2.5 being development >>>>trees. >>> >>> .oO(Though once 2.{7 or more, odd} trickle into the distros, it would >>> become pretty much apparent that they are not devel.) >>> >>>>And then in another few years (probably before getting close to 3.40, >>>>so I'm not going to make a big deal of 3 = "third decade"), I'd just >>>>do 4.0 etc. >>> >>> While 2.6 has certainly worn out, already thinking of a 4.0 is highly >>> reminiscient of the version number arms race Firefox and ChromeBrowser >>> are doing currently. >>> >>>>Because all our releases are supposed to be stable releases these >>>>days, and if we get rid of one level of numbering, I feel perfectly >>>>fine with getting rid of the even/odd history too. >>> >>> If I remember past-time discussions right, ELF was the contributing >>> factor to bump the major number to 2.0 back then; ever since 2.0, no >>> similarly breakthrough-ing event has occurred. >> >>What then about BKL removal? Nice place to celebrate with version jump >>and heaving some beers. > > The BKL going away was not a change that would require new > userspace programs. True but as you I guess - kind off - notice there's no such event that would launch fireworks and we get features smoothly. By that then we should celebrate killing old nightmares aka BKL. It's more like - lets not find the reason but include one just to feel better. At the end the simplified version convention is the best reason to do this cut off. I even plan to send a truck full of chickens to Linus if this will convince him :) Then, while describing new kernel deployment, I won't need to pronounce the cool sounding - ,,Mika so I've now installed two(dot)six(dot)thirty-five(dot)forty-one(dash)one version.'' Cheers, -Jacek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/