Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932471Ab1EXRgu (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 May 2011 13:36:50 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:54712 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932326Ab1EXRgs (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 May 2011 13:36:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4DDBEC91.8020004@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:36:17 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110428 Fedora/3.1.10-1.fc15 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jonsmirl@gmail.com" CC: Alan Cox , Jacek Luczak , Jan Engelhardt , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm , "Ted Ts'o" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , DRI , linux-fsdevel , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: (Short?) merge window reminder References: <20110523192056.GC23629@elte.hu> <20110523231721.GM10009@thunk.org> <4DDAEC68.30803@zytor.com> <20110524154348.27ba649d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1640 Lines: 37 On 05/24/2011 08:07 AM, jonsmirl@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> Can we drop most of MCA, EISA and ISA bus if we are going to have a big >> version change ? A driver spring clean is much overdue and it's all in >> git in case someone wishes to sneak out at midnight and bring some crawly >> horror back from the dead. > > 2.8 could mark the beginning of the great cleanup > --- work out the details of what needs to be cleaned and set a goal > --- remove old buses/driver, switch to device tree, graphics, 32/64 > merges, etc > 3.0 would mark its completion > I think this whole discussion misses the essence of the new development model, which is that we no longer do these kinds of feature-based major milestones. If we want to to deprecate lots of drivers (which I personally would advocate against -- I have built systems specifically to run a real floppy drive since the Linux floppy driver is amazingly flexible and can read/write a lot of formats that nothing else can, including USB floppies) then we should do that in the normal course of action, incrementally, and listed in feature-removal-schedule.txt, not all at once due to some arbitrary milestone. We have found it works better this way. -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/