Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:41:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:41:24 -0400 Received: from twilight.cs.hut.fi ([130.233.40.5]:59188 "EHLO twilight.cs.hut.fi") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:41:23 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:44:29 +0300 From: Ville Herva To: "Albert D. Cahalan" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Speaker twiddling [was: Re: Panicking in morse code] Message-ID: <20020727194429.GR1548@niksula.cs.hut.fi> Mail-Followup-To: Ville Herva , "Albert D. Cahalan" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <3D4298C6.9080103@sktc.net> <200207271856.g6RIufn63592@saturn.cs.uml.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200207271856.g6RIufn63592@saturn.cs.uml.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1786 Lines: 41 On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 02:56:41PM -0400, you [Albert D. Cahalan] wrote: > Reality? > > There's no "set up a microphone and decoder" problem. > Most people have a tape recorder. Use that, then play > back into the PC's sound card after you reboot. Post the > sound file on a web site. Reality? I don't have a tape recorder, and even if I had that procedure is so tedious that I'd rather write the oops down with a pen. And I don't use pen willingly as it is error prone. (I don't even dare to think what Windows people would say if I actually found a magnetophone and a mic and tried to sneak into the curiously twittering server room without anyone noticing.) Let's get real. There's much better solutions already available: - serial console that has been in kernel for ages (sneaking into server room with an old laptop and serial cable at least _looks_ professional) - kmsgdump from Willy Tarreau that writes the oops to a floppy (even makes a msdos fs), can use printer and enables pgup/pgdown even after lockup so that you can see the whole kernel ring buffer (who would ever notice if you sneak out from the server room with a floppy or a sheet of paper) http://wtarreau.free.fr/kmsgdump/ - netconsole from Ingo Molnar that logs the oops over udp (you don't even have to sneak into the server room) http://people.redhat.com/mingo/netconsole-patches/ Now, I would assume that most people have a floppy, printer or a network connection. At least more people than have a tape recorder. -- v -- v@iki.fi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/