Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:53:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:53:28 -0400 Received: from saturn.cs.uml.edu ([129.63.8.2]:49935 "EHLO saturn.cs.uml.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:53:27 -0400 From: "Albert D. Cahalan" Message-Id: <200207271856.g6RIufn63592@saturn.cs.uml.edu> Subject: Re: Speaker twiddling [was: Re: Panicking in morse code] To: wowbagger@sktc.net (David D. Hagood) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: arodland@noln.com (Andrew Rodland), acahalan@cs.uml.edu (Albert D. Cahalan), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <3D4298C6.9080103@sktc.net> from "David D. Hagood" at Jul 27, 2002 07:57:42 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1730 Lines: 40 David D. Hagood writes: > Either you are trying to output the panic information with minimal > hardware, and in a form a human might be able to decode, in which case > the Morse option seems to me to be the best, or you are trying to panic > in a machine readable format - in which case just dump the data out > /dev/ttyS0 and be done with it! > > To my way of thinking, the idea of the Morse option is that if an oops > happens when you are not expecting it, and you haven't set up any > equipment to help you, you still have a shot at getting the data. > > Trying to dump the oops data out by some form of FSK in most cases seems > silly - if you have taken the time to set up a microphone and decoder, > why not just set up a serial terminal? Reality? I'm one of the 42 remaining people with a terminal. My VT510 mostly sits unplugged due to heat, and it's taking up space. The RS-232 port is legacy hardware anyway, due for removal. My VT510 doesn't speak USB. Morse doesn't do "<" and other common characters. For those who know it, morse is useful. For well over 99% of the users, morse is gibberish anyway. There's no "set up a microphone and decoder" problem. Most people have a tape recorder. Use that, then play back into the PC's sound card after you reboot. Post the sound file on a web site. Sure, morse is cute and FSK isn't. FSK is useful. Morse is useful too, for different reasons. One could output in both formats, alternating between them until reboot. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/