Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:44:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:44:40 -0400 Received: from dns1.arrancar.com ([209.92.187.33]:16352 "EHLO core.arrancar.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:44:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Funding GPL projects or funding the GPL? From: Federico Ferreres To: Rik van Riel Cc: Larry McVoy , Alexander Viro , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 27 Jul 2002 18:44:05 -0300 Message-Id: <1027806251.2670.54.camel@fede> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1868 Lines: 50 On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 13:06, Rik van Riel wrote: > Agreed. What we need is funding for the development of those > things which aren't already taken care of by the community. The problem is not the community, but how the comunity is structured in certain areas. If big companies, educational institutions or goverments are not interested in your project, the OSS model fails as you stated. > In the areas where open source software is doing well, there > already is funding by interested parties (companies, government, > universities, ...). 100% true. > In short, I believe the voluntary donations aren't needed in > most areas people would donate to and won't make enough of an > impact in the areas where they are needed. Good point. I started at the wrong place. Anyway, if your funding is based on final users payments you need to make payment a non-option. So if vital parts of GNU don't help them a bit, it may just not work. If Windows/DOS didn't help fund Office, would we be having the Office compatibility problems now? Extend the list to all MS userland apps. As long as payment is optional and fragmented, OSS will have a hard time in userland core apps. Maybe an fGPL could work for them. Bad luck the projects that could help are already well funded. I'll get back and rethink the problem ... Federico PS: Larry, it's ok really. Harsh comments that make sense are much better than silence. Though without your posts it'd have been mostly flames. Thanks! > regards, > > Rik > -- > Bravely reimplemented by the knights who say "NIH". > > http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/