Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756167Ab1E1WDk (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 May 2011 18:03:40 -0400 Received: from ist.d-labs.de ([213.239.218.44]:50143 "EHLO mx01.d-labs.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753337Ab1E1WDj (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 May 2011 18:03:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 00:03:25 +0200 From: Florian Mickler To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Keith Curtis Subject: Re: Zero bugs (was Re: (Short?) merge window reminder) Message-ID: <20110529000325.07f5633a@schatten.dmk.lab> In-Reply-To: <4265.1306506572@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20110523192056.GC23629@elte.hu> <4DDD0E5F.5080105@panasas.com> <4DDE81F4.8060800@panasas.com> <4265.1306506572@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1927 Lines: 42 On Fri, 27 May 2011 10:29:32 -0400 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 26 May 2011 22:44:24 PDT, Keith Curtis said: > > > However, it is common in companies to make an effort to get towards > > zero bugs. Zero bugs is impossible, and that is a philosophical > > discussion. If you look through your current list of bugs, nearly > > every one looks scary to me and important to someone. You currently > > have 2,800 active bugs (http://bit.ly/LinuxBugs) The last time I > > looked, I found the median age was 10 months. In general, bugs should > > be fixed in the next release and so therefore 3 months. > Besides the valid points Valdis gave, also many of the bugs (if they are severe/real world bugs) are already fixed. That is because the bugzilla is not the only place where bugs are reported and resolved and only the original submitter and some other people are able to close bugs. Most of the development happens on the mailinglist. So this is also where most of the bugs get solved. ( Mailinglists also have the advantage of automatically garbage collecting old bug reports nobody has any interest in solving. This is a big drawback with bugzilla. If there is too much garbage in the bugzilla because nobody closes bugs, then developers will not take old bugzilla reports seriously. ) So if you want to make the bugzilla more useful, just go for it and put relevant people on the cc list of ignored bug reports, ping people that have not answered to a specific question for months (the bugzilla looses notification mails sometimes).. And if you determine bugs that can be closed, drop me a line, I will be happy to do that, if it is appropriate. Regards, Flo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/