Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:44:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:44:47 -0400 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:57235 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:44:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:47:58 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Andries Brouwer , Daniel Egger , Kernel Mailing List , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz Subject: Re: Linux-2.5.28 Message-ID: <20020727214758.A28328@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Linus Torvalds , Andries Brouwer , Daniel Egger , Kernel Mailing List , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz References:

Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 09:40:40PM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1574 Lines: 36 On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 09:40:40PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > I'm talking about people who don't even bother to do > > bug-reports, but only trash-talk the maintenance. > > On that note, let me mention the machines I personally am using IDE, and > apparently do not see problems: a dual PII with "Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 > IDE", and a P4 with "SiS 5513 IDE (rev 208)". > > Both setups in DMA mode, both setups have one disk per channel (first > channel is disk, second channel is CD-ROM). > > So what are the patterns for "working" vs "broken"? In the probably-not-useful department because I haven't tested on 2.5, my experience over a quite some time has been that you find a lot more problems when you are actively beating on both channels. There is some chipset, I suspect you know which but Andre certainly does, that is just basically busted when you use both channels. I've had so many problems with this that for any data I care about I plug in a 3ware controller and use that instead. I have a diskscrubber program which runs the bits through a series of changes, it's pretty trivial to write but I can post mine if you like, it works for banging on the disk. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/