Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757717Ab1E3UuN (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2011 16:50:13 -0400 Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.162.213]:53913 "EHLO lennier.cc.vt.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752545Ab1E3UuL (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2011 16:50:11 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.3-dev To: Mustapha Rabiu Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux 3.0-rc1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 30 May 2011 20:33:29 -0000." From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1306788607_2897P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 16:50:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20293.1306788607@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 198.82.161.152 auth3.smtp.vt.edu Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu 2 pass X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=neutral-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=MAILHURDLE SPF TAG X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=dagger.cc.vt.edu X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020204.4DE40301.002E,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2238 Lines: 57 --==_Exmh_1306788607_2897P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, 30 May 2011 20:33:29 -0000, Mustapha Rabiu said: > Linus Torvalds linux-foundation.org> writes: > > > > > Yay! Let the bikeshed painting discussions about version numbering > > begin (or at least re-start). > > > > I decided to just bite the bullet, and call the next version 3.0. It > > will get released close enough to the 20-year mark, which is excuse > > enough for me, although honestly, the real reason is just that I can > > no longe rcomfortably count as high as 40. > > > > Unsurprising, however, congratulations on yet another major release! > We applaud the fact that it'll be just as hideous as 2.6.x, without any > new or modified features. Might you explain why you didn't just > use 2.8.x ? > > Also, given that multiple people have asked for a handful of things > to be merged into the kernel, re: security, I'm puzzled about how > you managed to develop this self-styled 'alpha-male' based versioning > scheme without addressing unsettling discrepancies such > as /proc/pid/auxv, /proc/pid/stack and /proc/pid/syscall based > info-leaks or slub cache merging, etc, all of which have been publicly > discussed over varying periods of time, (circa ~2008) We can come back and revisit those issues after we get done fixing *all* the software that made a blind assumption that the kernel release number matches '2\.[46]\.[0-9]+' (said assumption being broken at *both* ends by a 3.0 release. I have to agree with Linus on this one - if we're ruling out ABI-breaking changes, we want to make this kernel release as little different as we can. --==_Exmh_1306788607_2897P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFN5AL/cC3lWbTT17ARAi85AKDrxI8WQRHAHxe3dpQ8ksq0hluKjwCgoub5 2ZyNoegRVnePXaIl4IcssCA= =2iWX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1306788607_2897P-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/