Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755011Ab1EaNpu (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 May 2011 09:45:50 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:45101 "EHLO rcsinet10.oracle.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751064Ab1EaNpt (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 May 2011 09:45:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:45:19 -0400 From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk To: Daniel Haid Cc: Andi Kleen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Question about iommu on x86_64 and radeon driver. Message-ID: <20110531134519.GC14641@dumpdata.com> References: <6ac3f6faad655602b767aa14b355e982@admin.gogi.tv> <20110523220536.GB11961@dumpdata.com> <756073831c36e0404199a4e8239bcb70@admin.gogi.tv> <08370791664f069624d25c757ed101c0@admin.gogi.tv> <20110525125752.GB3467@dumpdata.com> <20110527155507.GB11273@dumpdata.com> <9e26ea71798d10a3f900c777b71ff485@admin.gogi.tv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e26ea71798d10a3f900c777b71ff485@admin.gogi.tv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Source-IP: rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4DE4F0FE.015F:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2023 Lines: 44 On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:20:09PM +0100, Daniel Haid wrote: > >The DRM code is not used anymore. It was used by XFree86 but nowadays > >the TTM code is used instead. > > I see > > >Ah, this would be a lengthy writeup.. so did you look at the > >link I pointed you to? > > Yes I have started, but do not understand everything yet. > > What are MFNs? Is this something Xen-specific? > > > An does your post imply that on bare metal with "swiotlb=force > iommu=soft" > alloc_page with GFP_DMA32 does also not allocate under 4GB? Noo.. It does, but the normal assumption of 'phys_to_virt' == 'phys_to_bus' is not valid anymore. Think of a buffer (swiotlb) which has a pool of pages and when a PCI device wants a page, it hands one out. It also has other functionality such as 'mapping' of an already allocated page. If the PCI device asks the IOMMU (swiotlb) to map a page (and if you have 'swiotlb=force' the page provided has been allocated above 4GB and the device can only handle up to 32-bit), then swiotlb gives out a page from its own pool. You now have two addresses: the one from the PCI pool (swiotlb) and the one you already allocated. You are suppose to program your PCI card to read/write data to the page provided from the IOMMU (so the swiotlb), which means that it won't write to the page you had allocated. Hence there are a calls, such as 'sync_page'.. which will copy the contents from the swiotlb page to the one you had allocated (or vice-versa). This is called 'bounce buffer'. The radeon (and nouveau) don't have the code to call the 'sync_page', and you wouldn't really want to do so - as it slows down the performance of the machine. There exists another mechanism which is to allocate the pages at the start, and not do mapping later one. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/