Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758309Ab1EaUNy (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 May 2011 16:13:54 -0400 Received: from 1wt.eu ([62.212.114.60]:36544 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753371Ab1EaUNx (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 May 2011 16:13:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:13:48 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Joe Pranevich Cc: Mike Frysinger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux 3.0 change listings - Wonderful World of Linux 3.0 Message-ID: <20110531201348.GA8723@1wt.eu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2097 Lines: 48 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 01:22:49AM -0400, Joe Pranevich wrote: > Mike, > > Thank you. I appreciate the comments and the corrections. It was a > marathon weekend and yes, I missed some obvious typos. Thanks. > > As far as what is supported and when, my rule has been that if it is > labeled as "experimental", then it isn't released. So, that accounts > for why I didn't list NFSd v4 in this doc, even though there is a > module for it. (I should make this more clear though.) Similarly, I > *do* list IPv6 as new. It was listed as experimental in v2.6.0, so > that qualifies it for inclusion here. Many things have been marked experimental for years and remained like this just because nobody cared to change the comment in the Kconfig or config.in. But Mike is right : willy@fw:willy$ ip -6 a s dev eth0 3: eth0: qlen 1000 inet6 2001:7a8:363c::1/64 scope global inet6 fe80::280:c8ff:feca:d2b9/64 scope link willy@fw:willy$ uname -a Linux fw 2.4.37-wt3-fw #1 Sun Jan 31 00:55:16 CET 2010 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux willy@fw:willy$ And this machine was installed with something like 2.4.22 ten years ago. It's quite awkward to announce as "new" something that has been running in production at many places for ten years. It will sensibly discredit your article. I'd say that in general, almost all of the features you're announcing as "new" will make unaware people think that older versions did not have those features, which is quite misleading. Linus took great care to say that 3.0-rc1 had very few changes, it can be a bit confusing to see a post pretending it to be a revolutionary new kernel. Probably that you should more clearly say that all those features were progressively added in all 2.6 releases, otherwise I'm already expecting to see a lot of idiocies posted in journals. Regards, Willy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/