Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757503Ab1FGVW6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:22:58 -0400 Received: from diomedes.noc.ntua.gr ([147.102.222.220]:62175 "EHLO diomedes.noc.ntua.gr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756899Ab1FGVW5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:22:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4DEE9695.7060805@ece.ntua.gr> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 00:22:29 +0300 From: Stratos Psomadakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110603 Lightning/1.0b3pre Lanikai/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Mackall CC: david@lang.hm, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Frank Kingswood , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: ketchup script and 3.0 References: <4DEDD5F4.1070602@kingswood-consulting.co.uk> <1307451186.4204.953.camel@calx> <4DEE808D.6020405@ece.ntua.gr> <1307477435.4204.968.camel@calx> <4DEE8AD9.3050508@ece.ntua.gr> <1307479572.4204.977.camel@calx> <1307480372.4204.987.camel@calx> In-Reply-To: <1307480372.4204.987.camel@calx> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (diomedes.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.220]); Wed, 08 Jun 2011 00:22:31 +0300 (EEST) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1795 Lines: 44 On 06/07/2011 11:59 PM, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 13:50 -0700, david@lang.hm wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Matt Mackall wrote: >> >>> But my point is that if we have adhoc transitions, we will encounter the >>> "fix all the scripts and websites" pain at every transition. And tools >>> that are managed via distros and the like can literally take years to >>> get into the hands of users. It'd be nice if the copy of ketchup shipped >>> in just worked 3 years from now because 4.0 wasn't a >>> surprise. >> if you special case 2.4->2.6, and make the default that 4.0 > 3.x, 5.0 > >> 4.x, etc won't things 'just work' for the forseeable future? > No, because you sometimes want to know what 2.6.39++ is and what 3.0-- > is. > > For instance, to upgrade from 2.6.37.2 to 3.1.2, ketchup will want to > download, cache, and apply: > > patch-2.6.37.2 (reversed!) > patch-2.6.38 > patch-2.6.39 > patch-3.0 ?? <- hopefully Linus will make a delta against 2.6.39! > patch-3.1 > patch-3.1.2 Well, if this is a ketchup-only issue (and there's no other need for defining at which point major numbers are going to inc), we could find a solution/workaround (to future-proof it, without the need of constant updating of the code with every major release), but it'll probably be uglier, and I think that what Matt proposed is better. Anyway, when this issue is clarified, I'll try to fix the code, in order to handle next major releases, without requiring code changes. Thanks, -- Stratos Psomadakis -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/