Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757850Ab1FJSIl (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:08:41 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:53868 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757821Ab1FJSIj (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:08:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:08:07 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Kyungmin Park , Andrew Morton , Ankita Garg , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thomas.abraham@linaro.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] mm: Linux VM Infrastructure to support Memory Power Management Message-ID: <20110610180807.GB28500@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20110528005640.9076c0b1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20110609185259.GA29287@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20110610151121.GA2230@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20110610155954.GA25774@srcf.ucam.org> <20110610165529.GC2230@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20110610170535.GC25774@srcf.ucam.org> <20110610171939.GE2230@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20110610172307.GA27630@srcf.ucam.org> <20110610175248.GF2230@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110610175248.GF2230@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1377 Lines: 26 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:52:48AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 06:23:07PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > I haven't seen too many ARM servers with 256GB of RAM :) I'm mostly > > looking at this from an x86 perspective. > > But I have seen ARM embedded systems with CPU power consumption in > the milliwatt range, which greatly reduces the amount of RAM required > to get significant power savings from this approach. Three orders > of magnitude less CPU power consumption translates (roughly) to three > orders of magnitude less memory required -- and embedded devices with > more than 256MB of memory are quite common. I'm not saying that powering down memory isn't a win, just that in the server market we're not even getting unused memory into self refresh at the moment. If we can gain that hardware capability then sub-node zoning means that we can look at allocating (and migrating?) RAM in such a way as to get a lot of the win that we'd gain from actually cutting the power, without the added overhead of actually shrinking our working set. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/