Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:48:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:48:48 -0400 Received: from pc2-cwma1-5-cust12.swa.cable.ntl.com ([80.5.121.12]:4592 "EHLO irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:48:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [patch 2/9] 2.5.6 lm_sensors From: Alan Cox To: Pavel Machek Cc: Linux Kernel List In-Reply-To: <20020729222434.GB15219@elf.ucw.cz> References: <3D381CD1.6A0B9909@bellsouth.net> <1027130877.14314.6.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20020726104640.GD279@elf.ucw.cz> <1027694678.13429.40.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20020729222434.GB15219@elf.ucw.cz> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) Date: 30 Jul 2002 21:08:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1028059705.7974.32.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1391 Lines: 33 On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 23:24, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Given an afternoon someone competent can easily write a worm that > > destroys every scsi hard disk, almost every PC bios, your IDE firmware, > > some laptop batteries some USB devices and far more. > > Every scsi harddisk? I do not think *all* of them have upgradable > firmware. > > Every PC bios? I believe many manufacturers are clever enough to > require jumper. > > If hardware is so crappy it is possible to kill it ... well ... I > believe it is at least bugtraq topic. Pretty much all of them do. They often put the firmware on the disk platter nowdays rather than on flash. As to PC BIOSes - a few boards have jumpers, even fewer use them. Things are improving with the use of crypto in firmware for drives (addmitedly mostly to stop people patching the firmware to remove DVD region protection and other crap folks have been sneaking in) and black box protection for the bios flash - where a password must be written to write only registers (with another write only register set to configure a new password or turn on flash write once the old password is written to enable) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/