Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:25:51 +0200
From: Louis Rilling <Louis.Rilling@kerlabs.com>
To: Greg Kurz <gkurz@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        ebiederm@xmission.com, containers@lists.osdl.org,
        akpm@linux-foundation.org, xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce ActivePid: in /proc/self/status (v2, was
	Vpid:)
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On 16/06/11 15:00 +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 14:35 +0200, Louis Rilling wrote:
> > On 16/06/11 13:01 +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 20:46 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > On 06/15, Greg Kurz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -176,6 +177,17 @@ static inline void task_state(struct seq_fil=
e *m, struct pid_namespace *ns,
> > > > >  		if (tracer)
> > > > >  			tpid =3D task_pid_nr_ns(tracer, ns);
> > > > >  	}
> > > > > +	actpid =3D 0;
> > > > > +	sighand =3D rcu_dereference(p->sighand);
> > > > > +	if (sighand) {
> > > > > +		struct pid_namespace *pid_ns;
> > > > > +		unsigned long flags;
> > > > > +		spin_lock_irqsave(&sighand->siglock, flags);
> > > >=20
> > > > Well. This is not exactly right. We have lock_task_sighand() for th=
is.
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I see... ->sighand could change so we need the for(;;) loop in
> > > __lock_task_sighand() to be sure we have the right pointer, correct ?
> > > By the way, if we use lock_task_sighand() we'll end up with nested
> > > rcu_read_lock(): it will work but I don't know how it may affect
> > > performance...
> >=20
> > rcu_read_lock() is very cheap.
> >=20
>=20
> Fair enough. In this case, lock_task_sighand() would be the right choice
> if locking is needed.
>=20
> > >=20
> > > > But. Why do you need ->siglock? Why rcu_read_lock() is not enough?
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Because there's a race with
> > > __exit_signal()->__unhash_process()->detach_pid() that can break
> > > task_active_pid_ns() and rcu won't help here (unless *perhaps* by
> > > modifying __exit_signal() but I don't want to mess with such a critic=
al
> > > path).
> >=20
> > In case of race, the only risk is that task_active_pid_ns() returns NUL=
L.
> > Otherwise, RCU guarantees that the pid_ns will stay alive (see below).
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > > Hmm. You don't even need pid_ns afaics, you could simply look at
> > > > pid->numbers[pid->level].
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > True but I will have the same problem: detach_pid() nullifies the pid.
> >=20
> > But the pid won't be freed until an RCU grace period expires. See free_=
pid(). So
> > the non-determinism here is when /proc/<pid>/status is read at the same=
 as
> > threaded execve() or task's exit(), in which case a stale pid (execve()=
) or
> > no pid (exit after __unhash_process()) can be accessed. This does not l=
ook like
> > a big deal...
> >=20
>=20
> Ok. You're right, the RCU grace period is just what I need to ensure I
> won't dereference a stale pointer. So I don't even have to bother with
> ->siglock and just check pid_alive() before peeking into pid->numbers.

It ends like open-coding an optimized version of task_pid_vnr(). If the
optimization is really important (I guess this depends on the depth of recu=
rsive
pid namespaces), it would be better to re-write task_pid_vnr(). Otherwise, =
just
use task_pid_vnr() as it is.

Thanks,

Louis

>=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> > Louis
> >=20
>=20
> Thanks for your help.
>=20
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> Greg
>=20
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