Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758292Ab1FPRU3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:20:29 -0400 Received: from mail-gy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.160.174]:37526 "EHLO mail-gy0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758111Ab1FPRUX convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:20:23 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=vrfy.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KppDUA570YhgCuT/KBFtO7jCURyO2IqL7xqOkMavIjvx0PuQiF7NSJ4p0uBCcVb6wH KahjUKP5VZBAVYPV7V2v1SOtTL0lUvCoCy6PqvhmyRgabPWzFNQugeruNH4UiesF/mH/ o8WPkHWMQTCamgfVydDZcOIHay+xi4nxsyyrk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110615081610.2237.44767.stgit@ltc233.sdl.hitachi.co.jp> <20110615081627.2237.9620.stgit@ltc233.sdl.hitachi.co.jp> <20110615153337.GA10160@kroah.com> <4DF9F11F.705@hitachi.com> <20110616154129.GA31498@kroah.com> <1308239454.2436.34.camel@mulgrave> <20110616161442.GA32113@kroah.com> <1308241506.2436.44.camel@mulgrave> From: Kay Sievers Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:20:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] [RFC] genhd: add a new attribute in device structure To: James Bottomley Cc: Greg KH , Nao Nishijima , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jcm@redhat.com, hare@suse.de, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de, yrl.pp-manager.tt@hitachi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1607 Lines: 35 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:09, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 18:25, James Bottomley > wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 09:14 -0700, Greg KH wrote: >> > All userspace naming will be taken care of by the usual udev rules, so >>> > for disks, something like /dev/disk/by-preferred/ which would be >>> > the usual symbolic link. >>> >>> No, udev can not create such a link after the preferred name is set, as >>> it has no way of knowing that the name was set. >> >> It can if we trigger a uevent.  Note: I'm not advocating this ... I'd be >> equally happy having whatever sets the kernel name create the link (or >> tickle udev to create it).  We definitely require device links, though, >> to get this to work. Guess all that would work now, including mount(8) not canonicalizing. What would happen if we mount: /dev/disk/by-pretty/foo and some tool later thinks the pretty name should better be 'bar', it writes the name to /sys, we get a uevent, the old link disappears, we get a new link, mount has no device node anymore for the mounted device ... So we basically get a one-shot additional pretty name? Guess, the _single_ name changed anytime later just asks for serious problems. We need to set it very early to be really useful, but how, where is it coming from? Kay -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/