Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:02:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:02:04 -0500 Received: from web5203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.106.97]:42000 "HELO web5203.mail.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: <20001215223114.11180.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:31:14 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Landley Subject: Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun? To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, burton@relativity.yi.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > I am not sure it is a big deal. If you read the > comment it was more of an off-the-cuff remark. > > I doubt anyone would testify in court that McNealy > said this. The only way it is something to worry > about is if they used it in a printed format (IANAL) Law isn't an all-or-nothing thing. Obviously this isn't worth a lawsuit. By itself it's not even close. But sending an official letter asking them to respect the trademark counts as "defending the trademark" if it's abused in the future and we DO want to get serious about it. (Neutralizes this as a precedent slimy lawyers can point to of "Linux" being undefendable as a trademark and instead being a generic term.) And if the pattern of behavior WERE to continue/get worse, having gone through the appropriate steps way back when (measured, proprotionate response to earlier incidents) makes a much firmer foundation for a lawsuit later. And, because Sun's lawyers know that last point, they're fairly likely to take it seriously enough to let McNealy know that his course of action carries certain risks. (Remember that Meme Hacking talk, at the Fortune 500 it's all about reducing and managing risk.) It's a bit like saying your cat's name when you see them up on the coffee table where they're not supposed to be. It's not the same as actually punishing them, just letting them know you're aware that they're doing it. > Kevin Rob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/