Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 00:14:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 00:14:22 -0400 Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com ([192.6.19.190]:19657 "EHLO deimos.hpl.hp.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 00:14:21 -0400 From: David Mosberger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15691.22889.22452.194180@napali.hpl.hp.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:17:45 -0700 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: , Gerrit Huizenga , Hubertus Franke , , , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: large page patch (fwd) (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: <15691.19423.265864.413887@napali.hpl.hp.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.2.1 Reply-To: davidm@hpl.hp.com X-URL: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/David_Mosberger/ Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1340 Lines: 29 >>>>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:32:10 -0700 (PDT), Linus Torvalds said: >> And since superpages quickly become counter-productive in >> tight-memory situations anyhow, this seems like a very reasonable >> approach. Linus> Ehh.. The only people who are _really_ asking for the Linus> superpages want almost nothing _but_ superpages. They are Linus> willing to use 80% of all memory for just superpages. Linus> Yes, it's Oracle etc, and the whole point for these users is Linus> to avoid having any OS memory allocation for these areas. My terminology is perhaps a bit too subtle: I user "superpage" exclusively for the case where multiple pages get coalesced into a larger page. The "large page" ("huge page") case that you were talking about is different, since pages never get demoted or promoted. I wasn't disagreeing with your case for separate large page syscalls. Those syscalls certainly simplify implementation and, as you point out, it well may be the case that a transparent superpage scheme never will be able to replace the former. --david - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/