Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757979Ab2BXRVa (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:21:30 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]:65534 "EHLO mail-ww0-f42.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753292Ab2BXRV2 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:21:28 -0500 Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jidong.xiao@gmail.com designates 10.181.13.113 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jidong.xiao@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=jidong.xiao@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120224171344.GA9485@kroah.com> References: <20120224153811.GA16535@kroah.com> <20120224165448.GA8751@kroah.com> <20120224171344.GA9485@kroah.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can we move device drivers into user-space? From: Jidong Xiao To: Greg KH Cc: Kernel development list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1714 Lines: 35 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:06:54PM -0500, Jidong Xiao wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Greg KH wrote: >> >> As to "Linux isn't a microkernel", even though the debate between >> >> Linux and microkernel have never stopped, >> > >> > Um, who is having such a debate? ?We aren't, so I don't think the debate >> > has ever started. >> > >> >> Here is the classic debate between Andrew S. Tanenbaum and Linus Torvalds: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_debate > > That was 20 years ago, to assume that anyone rational was still having > that debate today is insane. > You probably missed the second paragraph. "This subject was revisited in 2006 after Tanenbaum wrote a cover story for Computer magazine titled "Can We Make Operating Systems Reliable and Secure?".[3] While Tanenbaum himself has mentioned that he did not write the article to renew the debate on kernel design,[4] the juxtaposition of the article and an archived copy of the 1992 debate on the technology site Slashdot caused the subject to be rekindled.[5] Torvalds posted a rebuttal of Tanenbaum's arguments via an online discussion forum,[6] and several technology news sites began reporting the issue.[7] This prompted Jonathan Shapiro to respond that most of the field-proven reliable and secure computer systems use a more microkernel-like approach.[8]" -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/