Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:36:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:36:41 -0400 Received: from [195.39.17.254] ([195.39.17.254]:18560 "EHLO Elf.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:36:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 03:40:19 +0000 From: Pavel Machek To: Helge Hafting Cc: David Lang , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.6] The List, pass #2 Message-ID: <20020803034019.A140@toy.ucw.cz> References: <3D49006C.12ABC6FC@aitel.hist.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3D49006C.12ABC6FC@aitel.hist.no>; from helgehaf@aitel.hist.no on Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 11:33:33AM +0200 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1432 Lines: 36 Hi! > > > > o Remove all hardwired drivers from kernel > > > > > > I really hope this means drivers MAY be used as modules, not MUST. There > > > is some overhead in doing things as modules, and added complexity usually > > > means "harder to debug." Particularly with modules where there can be > > > corner conditions and races on [un]load. > > > > Bill, > > Several people (IIRC including Alan Cox) would like to make many of the > > modules (network cards and scsi drivers for example) mandatory, requiring > > use of an initrd (or it's replacement) on all boot setups. > > As far as I know, they plan on doing things like > disk partition detection outside the kernel, i.e. in > a userspace program. That clearly require > a initrd (or similiar) for anybody with root > on a partitioned disk. > > Lots of other bootup initialization, like DHCP, > might move to userspace as well. This gives a smaller > and safer kernel. Why *safer*? Partition (,DHCP,..) code is ran once at boot. It is hard for it to harm security. Pavel -- Philips Velo 1: 1"x4"x8", 300gram, 60, 12MB, 40bogomips, linux, mutt, details at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/velo/index.html. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/