Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:32:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:32:49 -0400 Received: from mailhost.tue.nl ([131.155.2.5]:9299 "EHLO mailhost.tue.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:32:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:36:15 +0200 From: Andries Brouwer To: Hubertus Franke Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Paul Larson , lkml , andrea@suse.de, gh@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: Analysis for Linux-2.5 fix/improve get_pid(), comparing various approaches Message-ID: <20020809153615.GA1062@win.tue.nl> References: <1028757835.22405.300.camel@plars.austin.ibm.com> <3D51A7DD.A4F7C5E4@zip.com.au> <20020808002419.GA528@win.tue.nl> <200208090722.08223.frankeh@watson.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200208090722.08223.frankeh@watson.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1240 Lines: 27 On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 07:22:08AM -0400, Hubertus Franke wrote: > Particulary for large number of tasks, this can lead to frequent exercise of > the repeat resulting in a O(N^2) algorithm. We call this : . Your math is flawed. The O(N^2) happens only when the name space for pid's has the same order of magnitude as the number N of processes. Now consider N=100000 with 31-bit name space. In a series of 2.10^9 forks you have to do the loop fewer than N times and N^2 / 2.10^9 = 5. You see that on average for each fork there are 5 comparisons. For N=1000000 you rearrange the task list as I described yesterday so that each loop takes time sqrt(N), and altogether N.sqrt(N) comparisons are needed in a series of 2.10^9 forks. That is 0.5 comparisons per fork. You see that thanks to the large pid space things get really efficient. Ugly constructions are only needed when a large fraction of all possible pids is actually in use, or when you need hard real time guarantees. Andries - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/