From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] power, trace: add tracing for device_resume
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 21:30:08 +0200
User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/3.4.0-rc7+; KDE/4.6.0; x86_64; ; )
Cc: Sameer Nanda <snanda@chromium.org>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
        rob@landley.net, len.brown@intel.com, pavel@ucw.cz, fweisbec@gmail.com,
        mingo@redhat.com, jkosina@suse.cz, standby24x7@gmail.com,
        jj@chaosbits.net, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
        linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
References: <1337365643-29261-1-git-send-email-snanda@chromium.org> <201205191359.20457.rjw@sisk.pl> <20120519163226.GA24612@kroah.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120519163226.GA24612@kroah.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain;
  charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <201205192130.08573.rjw@sisk.pl>
Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
Content-Length: 4154
Lines: 74

On Saturday, May 19, 2012, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 01:59:20PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 19, 2012, Sameer Nanda wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 03:17:32PM -0700, Sameer Nanda wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > > >> > On Friday, May 18, 2012, Sameer Nanda wrote:
> > > >> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > > >> >> > On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 13:58 -0700, Sameer Nanda wrote:
> > > >> >> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 11:57 -0700, Sameer Nanda wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >> AFAICT, they are used for something completely different -- help solve
> > > >> >> >> >> suspend/resume issues by saving a hash in the RTC of the last device
> > > >> >> >> >> that suspended/resumed.  They don't use the perf tracing mechanism at
> > > >> >> >> >> all.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Also note that all tracepoints have timestamps attached to them. You do
> > > >> >> >> > not need to add deltas. Do that in the userspace tools that read the
> > > >> >> >> > timestamps and events. This way you can have one DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS and
> > > >> >> >> > three DEFINE_EVENTs. This will save space.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Agreed on the space savings.  However, with the time_delta in the
> > > >> >> >> trace message itself, a one line shell script [1] that sorts on the
> > > >> >> >> time_delta field is sufficient to quickly spot the devices that take a
> > > >> >> >> long time to resume.  Without the time_delta field, the user tool is
> > > >> >> >> more complex since it needs to first match up the device_resume_in,
> > > >> >> >> device_resume_waited and device_resume_out traces and then calculate
> > > >> >> >> time deltas.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Seems like a worthwhile trade-off to me but I can take out the
> > > >> >> >> time_delta if the general consensus is otherwise.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Just note that every TRACE_EVENT() adds around 5k or more code. Every
> > > >> >> > DEFINE_EVENT adds just about 300 bytes.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Ok, let me respin the patch.  I am thinking of adding time_delta to
> > > >> >> all three traces.  That way we should get the space saving while still
> > > >> >> allowing quick spotting of devices that take long time to resume.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Well, what's wrong with the code in drivers/base/power/main.c that
> > > >> > is activated by adding initcall_debug to the kernel command line?
> > > >>
> > > >> Mostly that I hadn't looked closely at initcall_debug before writing my patch :)
> > > >>
> > > >> Now that I have taken a look at it, the main issue is that the kernel
> > > >> command line needs to be modified to activate it.  We cannot do this
> > > >> for our automated regression suites since the kernel command line is
> > > >> protected on Chrome OS systems.
> > > >
> > > > You are kidding, right?  You have control over your test systems, don't
> > > > bloat everyone's kernel by 5k just because your infrastructure is
> > > > somehow something that you feel you can't change.
> > > 
> > > Fair enough.  But having to modify the kernel command line to do this
> > > is clunky.  How about exposing the ability to turn on these
> > > initcall_debug prints through a knob under /sys/power?
> > 
> > This might work, but first you'd need to make them depend on something
> > different from initcall_debug (and make that thing in turn be set if
> > initcall_debug is put into the kernel command line).  Then, you could
> > export the new variable.
> > 
> > Greg, does that make sense to you?
> 
> Maybe, I'd like to see a patch first before agreeing with it though :)

Sure.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/