Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760631Ab2EWUKb (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 May 2012 16:10:31 -0400 Received: from www.linutronix.de ([62.245.132.108]:46580 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758210Ab2EWUK3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 May 2012 16:10:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 22:10:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Avi Kivity cc: Ingo Molnar , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm: optimize ISR lookups In-Reply-To: <4FBCFC4A.7070303@redhat.com> Message-ID: References: <20120521163727.GA13337@redhat.com> <20120521215127.GH17031@redhat.com> <20120521222449.GJ17031@redhat.com> <4FBB6E8B.8020200@redhat.com> <20120523144846.GA26974@gmail.com> <4FBCFC4A.7070303@redhat.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LFD 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1862 Lines: 44 On Wed, 23 May 2012, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 05/23/2012 05:48 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: > >> > >> This is silly. Most of the time the kernel is advanced by > >> incremental patches. Sometimes it is advanced by minor or > >> major refactoring. It is never advanced by personal attacks > >> on contributors. > > > > Thomas wasn't so much doing a personal attack, it was pointing > > out stupidity and then it was mocking the repeated stupidity. He > > very politely explained his point of view (with which I agree), > > I guess we disagree on what is polite or not. Mocking, for example, > isn't part of it in my book. I really avoid flaming as far as it goes, but I consider that ignoring a thorough patch review and replying only on the very obvious problem is a massive form of impoliteness. Replying on a still polite reminder with a sloppy "I just took what's there and implemeted the optimization which I was tasked with" is even more of an offense. It clearly shows that there is no interest in making the whole thing better and just aims for quick and dirty "here are my benchmark results" success. This is what actually triggered me to switch into grumpy mode. I'm really tired of that attitude. It's the root cause for the steady increasing mess in the kernel. It forces people who actually care to waste an endless amount of time to clean up what has been just slapped into the code base quick and dirty. And you expect those people to stay calm and polite if they get ignored and ridiculed with sloppy replies? You may be a saint, but I'm definitely too old to cope with that. Thanks, tglx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/