Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:19:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:19:32 -0400 Received: from www.wotug.org ([194.106.52.201]:48945 "EHLO gatemaster.ivimey.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:19:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:21:14 +0100 (BST) From: Ruth Ivimey-Cook X-X-Sender: ruthc@sharra.ivimey.org To: Christoph Hellwig cc: Stephane Wirtel , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.20-pre2 compile error In-Reply-To: <20020813123255.A5393@infradead.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1579 Lines: 42 On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 01:01:38PM +0200, Stephane Wirtel wrote: >Yes, it is. And I'm pissed that it neither was depend on the devfs config option >nor had a devfs?related named for a long time. Richard just bloats the whole kernel >woth devfs crap all over the place. I would like to defend devfs a bit, although I know nothing of this particular case. I have (for ever) HATED the tendency of Unix systems to have one huge /dev directory with, often, thousands of completely useless devnodes in it, many of then with names that are obscure to say the least, and no idea how to find the right one. For example, recently I wanted to find the combined mouse device on an RH3 system that I haven't got around to switching to devfs; after a lot of searching, including in the kernel sources, I gave up. On defvs it's obvious: you have /dev/mouse/, and under that "mice", which, being the plural of "mouse", is pretty clear, IMO. At least devfs does address this, and IMO quite well. I don't at the moment understand the problems people have with it (and if possible I would appreciate a _sensible- discussion), but if anyone wants to return to the 'bad old days' I'm very much against it. Rant over, Regards, Ruth -- Ruth Ivimey-Cook Software engineer and technical writer. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/