Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:38:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:38:31 -0400 Received: from hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.202.12]:2276 "HELO hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:38:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:42:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Adrian Bunk X-X-Sender: bunk@mimas.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de To: Andrew Morton cc: Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , lkml Subject: Re: [patch 4/21] fix ARCH_HAS_PREFETCH In-Reply-To: <3D56B13A.D3F741D1@zip.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1518 Lines: 64 On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, Andrew Morton wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 08:38, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > This information loss is unfortunate. Examples: > > > > > > for (i = 0; i < N; i++) > > > prefetch(foo[i]); > > > > > > Problem is, if `prefetch' is a no-op, the compiler will still > > > generate an empty busy-wait loop. Which it must do. > > > > Why - nothing there is volatile > > Because the compiler sees: > > for (i = 0; i < N; i++) > ; > > and it says "ah ha. A busy wait delay loop" and leaves it alone. > > It's actually a special-case inside the compiler to not optimise > away such constructs. Why is this a special case? As long as a compiler can't prove that the computed value of i isn't used later it mustn't optimize it away. Kernighan/Ritchie (German translation of the second edition) contains the following example program that shows why the compiler mustn't optimize it away: <-- snip --> #include main() { double nc; for (nc = 0; getchar() != EOF; ++nc) ; printf("%.0f\n", nc); } <-- snip --> cu Adrian -- You only think this is a free country. Like the US the UK spends a lot of time explaining its a free country because its a police state. Alan Cox - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/