Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753344Ab2EaHJx (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 May 2012 03:09:53 -0400 Received: from fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp ([192.51.44.35]:37402 "EHLO fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752609Ab2EaHJw (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 May 2012 03:09:52 -0400 X-SecurityPolicyCheck: OK by SHieldMailChecker v1.7.4 Message-ID: <4FC718BA.8060608@jp.fujitsu.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:07:38 +0900 From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KOSAKI Motohiro CC: David Rientjes , Gao feng , hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@suse.cz, bsingharora@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] meminfo: show /proc/meminfo base on container's memcg References: <1338260214-21919-1-git-send-email-gaofeng@cn.fujitsu.com> <4FC6B68C.2070703@jp.fujitsu.com> <4FC6BC3E.5010807@jp.fujitsu.com> <4FC6C111.2060108@jp.fujitsu.com> <4FC6D881.4090706@jp.fujitsu.com> <4FC70355.70805@jp.fujitsu.com> <4FC70E5E.1010003@gmail.com> <4FC711A5.4090003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FC711A5.4090003@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1494 Lines: 36 (2012/05/31 15:37), KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > (5/31/12 2:28 AM), David Rientjes wrote: >> On Thu, 31 May 2012, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: >> >>>> An application should always know the cgroup that its attached to and be >>>> able to read its state using the command that I gave earlier. >>> >>> No. you don't need why userland folks want namespaces. Even though you don't >>> need namespaces. It doesn't good reason to refuse another use case. >>> >> >> This is tangent to the discussion, we need to revisit why an application >> other than a daemon managing a set of memcgs would ever need to know the >> information in /proc/meminfo. No use-case was ever presented in the >> changelog and its not clear how this is at all relevant. So before >> changing the kernel, please describe how this actually matters in a real- >> world scenario. > > Huh? Don't you know a meanings of a namespace ISOLATION? isolation mean, > isolated container shouldn't be able to access global information. If you > want to lean container/namespace concept, tasting openvz or solaris container > is a good start. > > But anyway, I dislike current implementaion. So, I NAK this patch too. Could you give us advice for improving this ? What idea do you have ? Thanks, -Kame -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/