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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:53:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: NVM Mapping API
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 04:02:01PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> I would love to use this from userspace. ?If I could carve out a little
>> piece of NVM as a file (or whatever) and mmap it, I could do all kinds
>> of fun things with that. ?It would be nice if it had well-defined, or at
>> least configurable or discoverable, caching properties (e.g. WB, WT, WC,
>> UC, etc.).
>
> Yes, usage from userspace is definitely planned; again through a
> filesystem interface. ?Treating it like a regular file will work as
> expected; the question is how to expose the interesting properties
> (eg is there a lighter weight mechanism than calling msync()).

clfush?  vdso system call?

If there's a proliferation of different technologies like this, we
could have an opaque struct nvm_mapping and a vdso call like

void __vdso_nvm_flush_writes(struct nvm_mapping *mapping, void
*address, size_t len);

that would read the struct nvm_mapping to figure out whether it should
do a clflush, sfence, mfence, posting read, or whatever else the
particular device needs.  (This would also give a much better chance
of portability to architectures other than x86.)

>
> My hope was that by having a discussion of how to use this stuff within
> the kernel, we might come up with some usage models that would inform
> how we design a user space library.
>
>> (Even better would be a way to make a clone of an fd that only allows
>> mmap, but that's a mostly unrelated issue.)
>
> O_MMAP_ONLY? ?And I'm not sure why you'd want to forbid reads and writes.

I don't want to forbid reads and writes; I want to forbid ftruncate.
That way I don't need to worry about malicious / obnoxious programs
sharing the fd causing SIGBUS.

--Andy
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