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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> I actually don't think it's the people as much as it is the ridiculous 
> linkages inside ide.c and the hugely complicated rules. The code is messy.

Note: it _is_ the people too, don't get me wrong. But in other areas we 
have people like Al Viro, who can drive grown men to cry (and drink) with 
his not-very-polite postings. And in those areas it hasn't been a huge 
problem, even though some people probably take a valium or two before they 
dare open emails from Al.

So the messiness and interconnectedness of the IDE layer just seems to
bring the people problem to a sharp and ugly point. The absolute lack of
communication skills wrt IDE among the people who have worked on it has
been stunning, and that probably _is_ because the code is so hard to even 
talk about.

		Linus

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