Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757216Ab2FPN3D (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:29:03 -0400 Received: from tex.lwn.net ([70.33.254.29]:55144 "EHLO vena.lwn.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756878Ab2FPN3A (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:29:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:29:06 -0600 From: Jonathan Corbet To: Thomas Gleixner Cc: Greg KH , ksummit-2012-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org, LKML Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] [ATTEND or not ATTEND] That's the question! Message-ID: <20120616072906.7469ec24@tpl.lwn.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20120615233413.GB8894@kroah.com> Organization: LWN.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1104 Lines: 26 On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:50:05 +0200 (CEST) Thomas Gleixner wrote: > A good start would be if you could convert your kernel statistics into > accounting the consolidation effects of contributions instead of > fostering the idiocy that corporates have started to measure themself > and the performance of their employees (I'm not kidding, it's the sad > reality) with line and commit count statistics. I would dearly love to come up with a way to measure "real work" in some fashion; I've just not, yet, figured out how to do that. I do fear that the simple numbers we're able to generate end up creating the wrong kinds of incentives. Any thoughts on how to measure "consolidation effects"? I toss out numbers on code removal sometimes, but that turns out to not be a whole lot more useful than anything else on its own. Thanks, jon -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/