Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:56:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:56:15 -0400 Received: from mhw.ulib.iupui.edu ([134.68.164.123]:46029 "EHLO mhw.ULib.IUPUI.Edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:56:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:00:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark H. Wood" X-X-Sender: cc: Subject: Re: ethtool documentation In-Reply-To: <1028672873.18130.198.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1536 Lines: 32 On 6 Aug 2002, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 2002-08-06 at 21:42, Randy.Dunlap wrote: > > Do you mean several unicast MAC addresses, as opposed to > > broadcast + several multicast + (one) unicast MAC address? > > If so, I'm not familiar with that scenario. > > Two unicast addresses, one for the sane world one for DECnet. The DEC > tulip supports this as one example Yes indeedy. This is what DECnet Phase IV has instead of ARP. Rather than broadcast a query and hope someone answers with the desired mapping, Phase IV specifies a mapping formula so that the sender can simply calculate a MAC address for any neighbor, given its upper-level address. That's where those AA-00-04 addresses come from -- the lowest 16 bits are the DECnet area and node number. There are a number of well-known multicast addresses (AB-00-04) too. Notice something that nobody has brought up yet (unless it's in the 3000 messages I haven't caught up to yet, sorry): LAA and UAA addresses can always be distinguished, by a bit in the top end. You can manufacture all the LAAs you want and namespace collisions are your problem, but UAAs are expected to be unique and unchanging. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu MS Windows *is* user-friendly, but only for certain values of "user". - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/