Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:47:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:47:12 -0400 Received: from p50839280.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.146.128]:40711 "EHLO calista.inka.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:47:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:51:27 +0200 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] (0/4) Entropy accounting fixes Message-ID: <20020820125127.GA13017@lina.inka.de> References: <20020818114858.A13115@linux-mips.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020818114858.A13115@linux-mips.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i From: Bernd Eckenfels Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1497 Lines: 32 On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 11:48:58AM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 09:31:41AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > dean gaudet wrote: > > > many southbridges come with audio these days ... isn't it possible to get > > > randomness off the adc even without anything connected to it? > > > > they also come with RNGs. > > I know of one soundcard RND that is simply implemented as a small > mask programmed ROM full of random numbers. That's good enough for > audio purposes but doesn't even qualify for /dev/urandom's use ... I am taking about southbridges with random sources, not about soundchips :) They can be used to contribute some bits to the entropy pool. I dont think they are the only source one should trust. But the specs say that they are no PNRG, and I havent heared about too disasterous results from statistical tests. So they are better than ethernet drivers, anyway. Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- Bernd_Eckenfels@Wendelinusstrasse39.76646Bruchsal.de -- ( .. ) ecki@{inka.de,linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD eckes@irc +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (O____O) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/