Message-ID: <1340996661.28750.124.camel@twins>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/40] autonuma: CPU follow memory algorithm
From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: dlaor@redhat.com
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
        Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@kvack.org, Dan Smith <danms@us.ibm.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
        Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
        Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
        Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
        Bharata B Rao <bharata.rao@gmail.com>,
        Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
        Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
        Mauricio Faria de Oliveira <mauricfo@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
        Don Morris <don.morris@hp.com>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:04:21 +0200
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On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 12:51 -0400, Dor Laor wrote:
> Some developers have a thick skin and nothing gets in, others are human 
> and have feelings. Using a tiny difference in behavior we can do much 
> much better. What's works in a f2f loud discussion doesn't play well in 
> email. 

We're all humans, we all have feelings, and I'm frigging upset.

As a maintainer I try and do my best to support and maintain the
subsystems I'm responsible for. I take this very serious.

I don't agree with the approach Andrea takes, we all know that, yet I do
want to talk about it. The problem is, many of the crucial details are
non-obvious and no sane explanation seems forthcoming.

I really feel I'm talking to deaf ears.
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